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That caused this tremendous turnout, they will still be able to negotiate wages but some limit on that. is that the main stumbling block for people that are opposed? >> you hear things, taking away their collective bargaining rights, these aren't rights, these are the perks they received because they affected who they negotiated across the table for many years. wisconsin is broke like a lot of other states we no longer can use gimmicks or kicking the can down the road to fix fiscal problems. the cost of collective bargaining whether it's paying the bus driver in madison $159,000 or $68 million...

And members of my caucus did, but then all of a sudden when things changed, they're saying that these 14 awol senators are somehow heros. i think they're the ones hijacking democracy. >> brian: senator, was this about breaking the union or balancing the budget? >> this is about balancing the budget. i mean, everything about this bill is about fiscal components, whether it's the $159,000 bus driver in madison, whether it's $68 million that the teachers unions force the school districts to spend, their health care plans, you know, it's entirely about fiscally balancing our budget. >> brian: but ...

Emergency de facto dictator appointed because of supposed fiscal crisis can't be paid more than $159,000, since that's what the governor is paid. fiscal emergency, right? republicans said no to that. republicans said no to that salary restriction, and voted that amendment down, in the name of fiscal crisis, natural. it is not about the budget. michael moore joins us in a moment. >> you have a role, a sleeping giant known as the working people of the united states of america. [ male announcer ] it's 2011. wonder where the durango's been for the last two years? well, it toured around europe, get...

Work rules mean. you can't fire bad teachers. you can't make government efficient and that is where you get $159,000 bus drivers. >> this state, wisconsin is the birthplace of progressivism. this is in their veins and genes. can it be changed with votes and governor's signature or mere violence that we have been observing going to be perpetual until the mob gets it's a way. >> i won't predict the future but the sense of entitlement that gets them out there saying -- how dare you? >> that the government will take care of you. >> and idea they represent labor. we represent the middle-class. they...

Than $159,000, since that's what the governor is paid. fiscal emergency, right? republicans said no to that. republicans said no to that salary restriction, and voted that amendment down, in the name of fiscal crisis, natural. it is not about the budget. michael moore joins us in a moment. >> you have a roll, a sleeping giant known as the working people of the united states of america., a sleeping giant known [ male announcer ] 100 crisps in every can. ♪ 100 ways to enjoy pringles. ♪ ♪ and they're the same price as the leading bag chips.