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You got to get more than that, right? you got to leverage that job. you got to leverage the presidency, get something out of it. that's the way he was talking to george stephanopoulos. he openly admits what he does. >> and i think one of the reasons is that he has lived a life of no rules and, you know, the people who were drawn to donald trump, they saw a tv guy, marketing guy who was strong and divisive and successful. if you pull back the curtains, you see somebody who was a failed developer who started selling his brand, putting his name on things. it was all branding. >> failed casinos. >...

Believe this country is headed in the wrong direction. a new book titled "the longest road" explores that in fascinating detail and asks a critical question. what keeps this united states of america together? joining me now, philip caput toe, are author of the book. talk about what you did covering 16,000 plus miles. what did you say it was 16241. >> 16,241 that's right. >> you went from florida to alaska. what was the impulse that drove you into making this road trip? was it a sense of adventure or something deeper than that. >> it was definitely a sense of adventure and the sheer romance of ...