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Seapac this year. they had armed marches. marches with guns. they picked the day after the 9/11 anniversary to march on washington against the u.s. government. they came out against the civil rights act. they came out against social security. they came out against soccer. they came out against thurgood marshall. they came out against the fact that people elect senators directly instead of state legislatures cheoosing senators. the 17th amendment? who knew this would try to be an issue this year? it has become a spectacular year and a half or so of conservative politics in this country. it has ...

Representatives of the state interest. like a lobbyist for the state. you think progressives would like that. the 17th amendment changed that and instituted a direct popular election of united states senators. two senators right there, two senate -- or the united states senate shall be comprised of two senators from each state elected by the people. okay? why did they do this? they wanted to take the direct representation out. they wanted to make sure that the states didn't have the direct representation. this, thomas jefferson warned about. 1821. he said this. do we have it up here? "when all...

16th and the 17th amendment. i don't know what madison would say if he was alive today about the 17th amendment, but in 1913, he would have fought against it. >> glenn: i think right now if he were alive he said look, i thought i was short back then. look how tall you are now! back in a second. x=í?s?t/y?x?ññ

So you get everything. but you can read it in novel form. what were they really, what were they dead set for and against? >> they were dead set against any centralized power. they had just come from underneath the british. and they feared concentration of power. we talk about checks and balances today. but we use it as one word. they wanted balance to also go into checks. so if you didn't have enough power, that check wasn't any good. so that is one of the reasons senators were pinted by the state -- appointed by the legislature because it gave power to the state. >> glenn: do you think the 17...

>> glenn: unbelievable. >> i had them reading it in tutus before the dance recital. constitutingamerica.org and the goal is to, it says in the federalist paper number 27, man is a creature of habit. the constitution is pretty much not even existent in our culture anymore. so our goal is to educate and bring in awareness about the constitution and the federalist papers, which explain the constitution to american citizens and students across america. >> glenn: i think and i can't remember now. i think i got it from tokeville -- the first time i heard it, it took me by surprise and you said at it...