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For word. >> arcane regulation is from 1822. that is from 2009. >>, no no, i mean it's a little bit in the weeds. i'm not sure voters are diving in that deep. we'll see. still ahead on "morning joe," a lot more to talk about. defense secretary ash carter admits the u.s. is far behind in its goal to train syrian rebels fighting isis. we'll talk to a member of the arms services committee, tim kaine who questioned the defense secretary at that hearing. are the nuclear talks with iran looking more and more like the 1994 negotiations with north korea? the chairman of the house foreign affairs commi...

I will just say that while it looks like the fire at mount zion appears to be lightning and we hope not a criminal act, there is no question as to why people would not become suspicious and try to connect the dots. there is a long history on america with attacks on churches. even within ame, mother emmanuel was taken down in 1822 in the reconstruction era when ame preachers went through south carolina some were actually hanged for trying to organize churches. reverend joseph delane who organized to try to end desegregation in schools had to be taken in a coffin out of south carolina and into n...

1822 where in the sixth year of a two-term president the party in the white house did well. >> right. >> 1822 and 1998 when there was a backlash against impeachment of president clinton. so the idea that obama had any kind of a chance to do well last fight was folley but it did turn out to be worse than a lot of democrats expected. >> you make a good point. we so often lose the historical context. ronald reagan lost a senate seat in the six yearich. people don't think of him as a failure. alexander pelosi thank you for your time in joining us here late night/early morning. the other big thing ...

Oppose this kind of legislation, as well. and, in fact, often what's really going on here is we have different understandings of what it really means to be gay so that you got folks who see being gay as a lifestyle choice who want to encourage folks not to make that choice. and then you've got other folks who say, no, look, this is my orientation. this is what i feel, it's who i am and so when you do something that harms me as a person, you're discriminating against me, not on the basis of any choice i made, but just who i am. >> the verse that many christians who oppose gay marriage or homose...

1998 and we were so sure the clinton scandals were going to carry us over to the promise land and, instead, focusing on bill clinton and bill clinton scandals and not just monica. i wasn't focusing on her. i was focusing on weapon cells to china and big contributors and big fund-raisers where bill clinton would good into the white house and all of these people from foreign countries. one time there was so many foreigners in there, he said, today, is a day that we in the united states call presidents' day and where we celebrate our presidents. there were so many scandals you couldn't keep up wi...