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South carolina because everybody moved into mill villages and immediately started eating processed food because they weren't growing their food anymore. the second thing that happened is there was a massive amount of expertise that was lost during the civil war. >> anthony: a lot of the southern revival, the whole turnaround started with this guy, glenn roberts. a man who asked a simple question -- how come grits aren't as good as they used to be? and by starting the heirloom grain company anson mills, decided to do something about it. so why do this? why does something as unwanted, meaning no...

To get a true hook into hbcus i need to start at the beginning. at the very first hbcu. lincoln university in pennsylvania. oh, wait a second. i just heard black twitter firing up the twitter. some think chainy was the first hbcu because it was the first to open in 1837. but others say lincoln because even though founded in 1854 it was the first to grant degrees to african-americans. either way, lincoln invited me. i'm at lincoln and just in time for homecoming. so what- what's happening? >> oh, a lot. >> yeah, homecoming. >> and what year are you at the school.

So much nor tmore the chatter. got a kiss on both cheeks. it looked as warm as it should look. this looked like a perfectly normal meeting between two world leaders. >> so far that's the case. the white house did put out a sheet just a short while ago and one of the things i found amazing is they said in october 16, 1837, 1 german families arrived and tried to go on. we're cooperating on terrorism, trade and other issues. you ask a deep question which is important. what can come out of this. is this is a business as usual meeting or not. the true answer is given the importance and scale of u.s...

That? that john bolton? john bolton did not get picked by trump for that deputy job that would require senate confirmation on and didn't get sent for confirmation. since then he's offered advice on points of foreign policy like iran and like north korea at the end of february, john bolton published this opinion piece quote, the legal case for striking north korea first. first, his conclusion reads in 1837 britain unleashed fire and furry against a wooden steamboat. it's legitimate for the united states to respond to the nuclear weapons by striking first. so as a public figure, he's been advoca...

The civil war. >> anthony: a lot of the southern revival, the whole turnaround started with this guy, glenn roberts. a man who asked a simple question -- how come grits aren't as good as they used to be? and by starting the heirloom grain company anson mills, decided to do something about it. so why do this? why does something as unwanted, meaning nobody was particularly crying out, "you know what we need? we need rice that used to taste like it did in 1837. we need grits, better grits." what called to you that you felt compelled to answer? >> glenn: i'm a cuisine whore, you know? i think that...