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The power is going to be in the corporate giving. and that that's part of why this happened. i'm fascinated about the fact that while in montana a, you know it was 1907 when the raderal republicans in the state of montan gnaw, not on our state. you're not going to come in here and throw your money around, no. at this point, a century plus ahead and being rolled back again, it's fascinating. >> wall street backed the obama campaign in 2008 much more aggressive than they did the mccain campaign. received huge amounts of wall street money and corporate money and does not break down that cleanly. ...

Now, theodore roosevelt in 1907 there was a financial panic, it was pretty serious, pretty deep and the wall street guys and conservatives were piling on and saying you caused it with your regulations. he then gave this fiery speech where he said, well, first of all, if any individual actions caused it, europe had a lot to do with it, but it was you guys who were depositors in banks, banks owned deposits, they allowed them to speculate, failed as a result of it, and then there was an escalating failure. it was you guys who abused the power, and i saved you from that. my regulations are making ...

Done that a few times, with his health care and with going after bin laden. i think that the interesting thing about obama in that regard is that he's never quite right at the zeitgeist. so people like, you know roundtables like this, they're always right at the moment. obama's not there. he's somewhere else. he's either before that or after that. and he also has a tendency, i've seen, to learn and go. so you know, he'll flounder around for awhile and you'll probably find that message, whether it's too late or not. >> somebody else is not always right in a moment but always hanging around with...

So what do you make of, again, what i thought was so important about this week, is that this was not a distraction. this was not noise. this was very much what the campaign will be decided on, which are these two visions of what to do about the economy? >> and i think the person who wins will be who can tell the more compelling story about what caused the problem in the first place and what they're going to do to solve it in the second place. the guy i'm hanging around with now, theodore roosevelt in 1907 there was a financial panic. it was pretty serious, pretty deep and the wall street guys ...

It doesn't even have sarah on it. it just has o.c. smith and there's no cherokee. megyn: so far she has not released any proof, she's not released any documentation. you say in your open letter, quote, we cherokees have lots and lots of documentation supporting our claims of ancestry. is that the case? for cherokees, yes. yes. there is -- from the miller roll, which was 1907 to 1914, going all the way back to before the trail of tears, cherokees are recorded and we can trace our families. megyn: she doesn't provide documentation as proof but apparently her campaign is pointing folks to the pow...