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Lemkin says "no". people get killed en masse, not because what they've done but, because they are a member of a group. the law must protect them as a group. "no," says lauterpacht. "if you protect them as a group, you will replace "the tyranny of the state with the tyranny of the group." and i think that has, to a certain extent, happened. because you, in a sense, fall into the trap that the nazis set. yes. when lemkin published his book, axis rule, in november 19114, he received an extraordinary letter from a friend of his that said, "look, i'm looking to make this public. "i don't want to cr...

Professor — we must protect individuals because they are living, breathing, sentient beings as individuals. lemkin says "no". people get killed en masse, not because what they've done but, because they are a member of a group. the law must protect them as a group. no, he says, if you protect them as a group, you will replace the tyranny of the state with the tyranny of the group. and i think that has, to a certain extent, happened. because you, in a sense, fall into the trap that the nazis set. yes. when lemkin published his book in november 19114, he received an extraordinary letter from a ...

No, it was a revolutionary moment. this had never happened before in human history — that the leaders of a state, germany vanquished — should be put on trial before an international tribunal — this was a completely new thing. and as part of that process, new crimes were invented — genocide, the killing of groups, crimes against humanity, the killing of individuals. there's a problem, of course — these crimes did not exist in 1939 01’1942 as such, and so they were applied retroactively. well, they weren't on the charge sheet — genocide was not on the charge sheet in 19115. genocid...

Invented at the same time. crimes against humanity, basically driven by a cambridge professor, hersch lauterpacht, we must protect individuals because they are living, breathing, sentient beings as individuals. lemkin says "no". people get killed en masse, not because what they've done but, because they are a member of a group. the law must protect them as a group. "no," says lauterpacht. "if you protect them as a group, you will replace the tyranny of the state with the tyranny of the group." and i think that has, to a certain extent, happened. because you, in a sense, fall into the trap that...

Thank you so much forjoining us on the programme. we will have much more for olympics and it is worth reminding you how historic these olympics are. it's the first games to be postponed since 19114 and that was because of world war 2. it's also the first olympics taking place during a global pandemic. we caught up with some former olympians in asia, and we asked them what's the biggest challenge athletes will face in the competition this year. music. i think that actually they will have to prepare themselves on this one because it would be a really, really different atmosphere. this time, ther...