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Jeff that the story is accurate. but be it as it may, just reflecting on tom brady's career, a guy in his 20 years in new england, went to ten super bowls. think about that. half the time he was in new england, he was in a super bowl. i don't know if we're ever going to see that again. obviously leaves new england, goes to tampa bay the next year and wins a super bowl there. so i just think from a guy who was drafted in the sixth round, 199th pick, who was a fourth string quarterback when i was there that moved his way all the way to the starting position and created that type of legacy. i don...

Career of my lifetime. >> wow. that says a lot. i don't think many people would disagree with you on that front. how did he go from the sixth-round draft pick to the greatest quarterback of all time or the greatest athlete? what was it that it drove him? >> tom is just an incredibly competitive person. and that's the thing i've always admired about tom, is not just the accomplishments but the fact of how he did it. he was the 199th pick. he was the sixth pick. nothing was given to him. everything has been earned. and some people, once they've earned their stripes, they find ways to turn it dow...

(gentle music) tom brady, greatest quarterback of our time, is retiring at the age of 44 according to multiple reports. now, when he was drafted in the year 2000, he was the 199th

There is and all the time he put into that. for football nerds like yourself of course will debate brady's standing among the greats for years to come. but go ahead and give us your argument for why brady is the greatest of all time now that it looks like he may have played his last game. >> this is like not a hard -- this is not a hard argument to make. right? to have seven super bowl rings. to have been to ten. six with the patriots. it just doesn't happen in football. it doesn't happen in football at all. it's really -- it's crazy to think he played as long as he did as well as he did. and ...

Taken with the 199th pick in the nfl draft. he played with that edge for more than two decades, and again, think about this, he went out on top and turned to this personal performance. he was going to turn 45 next august, and he had always talked about playing to 45. if he'd have come back, i wouldn't have been surprised and would have been happy just as a sports fan, but oh, my god, when you look at the totality of it, bill russell was a great winner, ruth was a great winner, michael jordan was a great winner. this is the g.o.a.t. of all g.o.a.t.s. >> thank you very much for being with me thi...