CNN New Day December 9, 2013 11:40:00
Thank you very much, i'm sorry for your loss. thank you for joining us. right after if riots in 19ex, you were put in prison. so you were a part of the new guard fighting apartheid, that's when you met nelson mandela, certainly the face of the old guard. what was his face to you? >> obviously, it was people socialized into prison life, fighting, virtually all the time. and the folks who were there were trying to say to us, pace yourself, you will be here for a long tie and for to you say here and be comfortable, you need to pace yourself properly. >> reporter: one of the things that separates ...
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