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Language? >> i laughed my head off. here's the thing. david is right about this -- if you run for repeal, everybody knows you're not going to do it. if you say repeal, repeal and reform. say we're going to get rid of these, we're going to keep these and we're going to put these in there. that might work. if you say it's not going to happen until 2013. because then it's got credibility. but it ain't going to happen -- >> these guys don't have credibility. they took themselves out of the conversation. they are flirting with the worst aspects of your side of the aisle. >> i've heard it from -- >>...

But adjusting costs down and bringing fairness up. and reconnecting patients and doctors. that seems plausible to me. if you had an opposition party that was as effective as you are at pointing out the basic flaws in this. do you think we can do that? i think we can do that. but i don't think we'll do it until 2012 or 2013. because i don't think this administration, even if we passed it, i don't think they would approve it. they don't want a market-based system, contrary to what the secretary said. >> listen, senator, i'm delighted to get an opportunity to get sometime with you this afternoon....

>> i want to ask you -- >> wait a second, he's going to agree with me. >> are you offend fwhad language? >> i lafred my head off. david is right about this -- first you're not going to do it if you rub for repeal. if you say repeal, repeal and reform. say we're going to get rid of these, we're going to keep these and we're going to put these in there. that might work. if you say it's not going to happen until 2013. because then it's got credibility. but it ain't going to happen -- >> these guys don't have credibility. they took themselves out of the conversation. this he are flirting with the ...

Here's the thing. david is right about this -- if you run for repeal, everybody knows you're not going to do it. if you say repeal, repeal and reform. say we're going to get rid of these, we're going to keep these and we're going to put these in there. that might work. if you say it's not going to happen until 2013. because then it's got credibility. but it ain't going to happen -- >> these guys don't have credibility. they took themselves out of the conversation. they are flirting with the worst aspects of your side of the aisle. >> i've heard it from -- >> from mother jones. >> just like we ...

>> stop saying that. we're going to spend more in 2013. >> because ohaf entitlements. >> by the way, bob, in four, five years from now, we're going to spend over $4 trillion.4 we're spending 3.6, 3.7 trillion right now. you're just saying where the cuts are. we're not cutting anything. we're just moving money fromin here to here and say you have td cut back. >> the other thing we're not doing -- could i get a word in? the other thing we're not doing is the cuts are one thing. but you have to have pro growth policies to go with it. there are two things happening now thatre are promising. the fi...