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Interference in 2020 and the russians will help them out again as they helped in 2016. either way they are putting their party's interest above the national interests. this is so shameful, this is so awful, i just cannot believe the republican party is doing this. >> yeah. so the republican party is saying -- and trump, abide by what's in the thing, robert mueller didn't find any of this stuff, that the report, i guess, you know, is solid. but then where mueller says that -- you know, where mueller said he never tried to fire mueller -- i'm sorry. where trump says he never tried to fire muelle...

Now, what conceivable rationale could they possibly have for blocking something that is so obviously in the national interest? the only possible rationale i can think of are, two, one is they don't want to incur donald trump's wrath because they know he does not want to admit there was any interference so he doesn't want to do anything to counter future interference. but the more nefarious explanation which jennifer was getting at it, maybe they're hoping there will be interference in 2020 and the russians will help them out again as they helped in 2016. either way they are putting their party...

Executive. he doesn't dish it out to other members of the administration to go off into the wild blue yonder and decide we will now declassify. there is a concern and quiet rumblings on the hill about what this potentially means going into the rest of the year and the full-throated aspects of the presidential campaign where you've got the attorney general now surreptitiously and sometimes not so surreptitiously putting information out on the street that may be beneficial to the president's overall narrative about no collusion, et cetera, etc. when you stop and think about it, chris, this could...

Yonder and decide we will declassify. there is a concern and quiet rumblings about what this potentially means and into the full throated aspects where you have the attorney general putting information out on the street that may be beneficial to the president's overall narrative about no collusion, et cetera, etc. this could be worse than hacking our government. that's a big concern right now. >> i just don't see any incentive for the people that participated in this in 2016. either the trump administration and the campaign going like this to the russian and it is

>> michael: but what is not rational the way the democrats have approached this russian matter, especially with regard to speed ten. i don't know if you have followed coverage on the other networks and other media outlets, but they have been so trembling with glee about this revelation from cohen that he apparently overheard a conversation between donald trump and roger stone sometime in late july 2016 where stone apparently confided that he had a phone conversation with julian astonish. there is no independent evidence of that whatsoever. and just indicted roger stone last month on charges th...