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Alabama that no one would have ever imagined was possible. i think there's a lot of energy on the democratic side. there's also a lot of energy not just among the base but in terms of people who want to run for office, people who want to run newly for office, who haven't run in the past. lots of women running for office. i think there's going to be no shortage of excitement, energy and candidacies on the democratic side. but i do think that nothing can be taken for granted. democrats are going to have to, you know, really do the work that it takes to actually win in 2018. certainly looking for...

White house and donald trump would not. >> what do you think of that? >> i think it's a counterfactual that's hard to reckon with one way or the other. it's really hard to say. there are i don't controlled experiments in politics g. point. what does the democratic party do at this point? even without donna brazile's book, they've been bearing dirty laundry, playing out in public, some say it's a necessary thing when you lose as badly as they've been doing in terms of state races and across the country in congress over the last couple of years. what do they do? >> you know, they have to figure ...