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Msnbc contributor, victoria, she is assistant dean for civic engagement at the lbj school of public affairs at the university of texas. it is great to see you both. secretary castro, i want to start with this wide-reaching effort by the gop to undermine election results. "washington post" journalist robert costa was on "meet the press" this morning discussing trump's overall strategy. take a listen. >> he wants power back. our reporting in the book shows he's -- these rallies don't get a ton of coverage but he is out there with this type language. we'll never surrender, we will never give in. ...

Be trump again. we don't know what his plans are going to be for 2024. certainly in the near term, we know that he wants to be a loud voice on the campaign trail for the mid terms. he's going to start over the course of the next few weeks starting back on the rally circuit, trying to play a bigger role and endorsing primary candidates and what not. at the same time, though, what we are seeing from could-be candidates on the republican side is a bunch of different ways of contending with him. i think, for example, about maryland governor larry hogan who has sort of taken the approach that he wi...