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That this was fireable behavior. you know, you look at wanda sikes who called rush limbaugh the 20th hijacker. kathy griffin who held a bloodied severed head of donald trump. what i'm curious about, candace, is that the prescription for punishment seems to be career-ending in certain situations, right? and then in other situations it's not. even joy reid who made homophobic slurs was one of the people who was asked to come on today on msnbc and give her reaction to, this candace. >> yes. it's unbelievable. i thought of joy and reid. not only did she say homophobic slurs she lied about the homo...

Gotten. what works in the system are the checks and balances and restraints that everyone, including the president, must submit to. >> this is a legal permanent resident. so there are protections that are afforded to those types of immigration cases, immigration status in the united states. if you go back to the first world trade center bombing trial, we learned so much about al qaeda, how osama bin laden was operating at that point. we have had others in the immediate post 9/11 era. padilla who wanted to put out a dirty bomb, and others, including the -- who would have been i think one of the...

Portfolios that have to be managed, it is very difficult to figure out which one is going to pop off. >> jenna: that is so important for us, again, according to customs they were able to screen people, they were able to use their databases, it was just lower. but you say that a lot of the folks that have committed bad acts are actually known entities, so even if they did pop up in the database, it may not tell us when things or the other. >> a lot of times it isn't about the database turning back a threat. you think back to year 2001, the 20th hijacker for 9/11, he got to customs in orlando ai...

Bureaucracy specifically designed to prevent that happening again, but you get the sense from tashfeen malik's immigration application that, in fact, the same thing is just going on. it just costs more money to let all these people in than it did before. >> and one of the interesting things is when you go back to 9/11, the 20th hijacker, the one we caught, mos ourks i, he came here on an immigration program. all the paris attackers they were also french citizens. i do think the visa waiver nations are a danger. what i've been advocating is i don't want to stop travel, i think people should go ...

Bureaucracy specifically designed to prevent that happening again, but you get the sense from tashfeen malik's immigration application that, in fact, the same thing is just going on. it just costs more money to let all these people in than it did before. >> and one of the interesting things is when you go back to 9/11, the 20th hijacker, the one we caught, mos ourks i, he came here on an immigration program. all the paris attackers they were also french citizens. i do think the visa waiver nations are a danger. what i've been advocating is i don't want to stop travel, i think people should go ...