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>> it is to wish that they would have never gone this far and would have to give him credit. when you look at the fact that the numbers behind the afghanistan war is astounding. they are 11.3 years, the cost of the war, $557.3 billion. dead, 2,174, wounded, 17,674 and, still, 66,000 troops there today to start getting out of this early makes financial sense and it saves american lives. >> yes, that whole argument around cost was the argument that candidate obama made around

>> it is to wish that they would have never gone this far and would have to give him credit. when you look at the fact that the numbers behind the afghanistan war is astounding. they are 11.3 years, the cost of the war, $557.3 billion. dead, 2,174, wounded, 17,674 and, still, 66,000 troops there today to start getting out of this early makes financial sense and it saves american lives. >> yes, that whole argument around cost was the argument that candidate obama made around the iraq war.

They are out there but not spending. we have seen shopper traffic bring back forecasts for consumer spending. it started out, it looked good, but that was on black friday and now it looks like retailers are going to have to give deep discounts. people have the one last day. >> they are hang out in the crowds and not spending. >>guest: they are worried and waiting to see the deeper discounts come out. a lot of retailers waited and says it is a longer holiday season because thanksgiving was so early and we will wait for the deep discounts until the end and maybe people will spend. tomorrow, we a...

11.3%. in nonright to work states, increase .6. what all the numbers mean, more people move to your state, more tax revenue, more jobs, more companies coming there. if you put it together it is great for the local economy. bill: here are some more numbers and these are staggering, guys. unemployment in michigan is 9%. you know, across the country, we've got the number earlier today 7.7%. you could argue the second number you see on the screen now. detroit's unemployment rate, 18.9%. >> right. bill: detroit's population is at its lowest level in more than 100 years. that is really a story you c...

It may be short-lived, though, because there could be big demand. remember, a lot of people aren't hitting the roads. we have to see if there's any sustained damage to oil infrastructure. as for the economic toll, we have to wait and see. at this stage it's just speculation in terms of dollars and cents. back to you. >> thanks so much. we can put sandy into perspective, though. here's a look at some of the nation's most expensive hurricanes. number five was charley in 2004. 8.5 billion, number four is wilma in 2005, 11.3 bill, ike in 200811.7 billion and andrew is number two and not a surprise...