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>> that's reasonable, is it not? come on. >> let's bring in right now, we have over at the white house, we're going to be able to talk to the director of the national economic council, jegene spurli. you've been listening. >> nice to have you. >> thank you for dropping by. you've been listening to this discussion and it seems like there may be a middle ground on tax. a lot of people don't understand why warren buffet pays 14% in taxes and people making over $500,000 spend and average of -- >> 18.8% effective tax rate. >> can we get a lot of more revenue by closing these loopholes for the wealt...

It's all piled on the backs of the most frail elderly, the people struggling in america and then you have the wealthiest asked to do nothing. to suggest in the ryan plan we reduce the overall tax rate for the wealthiest americans to 25% and ask 33 seniors each to pay $6400 more for $200,000 in tax breaks for the wealthy is crazy. >> dave. >> first, you have to recognize we need comprehensive tax reform. the top bon% of americans. >> exactly. >> who made $500,000 and over pay 18.8%. they don't pay 25 or 35. why? most of their income is capital gains. we need to dramatically broaden the tax base...

The pundits thought this would be in the 60s, but these teams struggled as you mentioned in the first half, 22-19 at half. butler was a big three-pointer at the end of the first half. we thought okay, these teams are a little nervous on the big stage. maybe they'll get their footing going in the second half. they really didn't, as they struggled. a 22-3 run by connecticut turned a six-point deficit into a 13-point lead and connecticut never looked back from there. but defense was the key, guys, in this game, as the connecticut huskies were able to hold the butler bull dogs to 18.8% shooting. t...

A couple of times for all the wrong reasons, however. >> in basketball, you have to make shots and butler didn't make many of them. they shot a woeful 18.8% from the field, that is, in fact, a record. the old one stood since 1941 and it was so bad in one part of the game the announcers called butler's performance an "unparalleled ineptitude." >> oh, come on. we can't forget uconn. they weren't lighting up the scoreboard either but a few long-scoring runs in the second half was too much for butler and in the end, uconn wins its third national championship, final score, uconn -- and let's get it...

After the game, 18% shooting, 12 of 64 just is not going to win you any basketball game. >> we're just coming out of a locker room that's hurting, a locker room that's got a lot of pride because of the way our kids carried us this year. as i told them, i don't care if they make shots, you know. if we would have won and because -- i don't love them any less because we lost. >> you know, it's -- it's really hard to put that into words right now because we wanted a little bit more, but, you know, maybe -- maybe at some point we can look back and be, you know, proud of what this group has accompli...