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Simmering for 25 years and we have been over and over, politicians don't want to deal with it. they find a way to muddle through and back away. >> there's a lot of corporate interest in that. china represents a very powerful, very dynamic market and a lot of businesses want to be there, even if it's going to cost them of losing intellectual property. they're making that gamble and making that decision to be there. they don't necessarily want the u.s. government interfering in all of this and putting these restrictions on china. it's so good to see you. thank you, claudia, for being here. i wan...

21993. 2 >> everything that you see, you should suspect has been put there for a reason. every image and every narrative. someone wants you to see it and has spent a lot of money sometimes to do that. >> sean: both of you agree with what i'm saying about jeff zucker. this is what i don't understand about time warner. they have shareholders. they are allowing him to stay destroy their brand and advance what is clearly a personal agenda that he has against the president. >> i think that the forced resignation of the three journalists, by the way -- >> sean: they used fake news cover fake news. t...