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>> oh, come on! donald trump is, too. >> they're going negative. but the truth of the matter is, and bakari, you know these numbers, that the black vote is down in north carolina 22.7% early voting now. we cannot compare hillary clinton to barack obama, obviously, it's going to be lower. but it is a number that concerns democrats and what the president was trying to do and what hillary clinton is trying to do is to outline the stakes of this campaign to people of color in a very important wait. >> david, you know north carolina very well. president obama won in 2008, did not win in 2012, right...

Actual participation when it comes to the percentage of the vote by about 3%. not good news for democrats. though the bright spot is the hispanic participation really has blossomed right now and in fact, just the raw numbers alone, we are seeing hispanic participation at more than 336,000 ballots returned in 2016 than 2008. let's go to north carolina. two million people have participated there. who is in the lead right now when it comes to ballots returned? democrats have a 243,000 ballot returned advantage. however, when you look at what happened in 2012, their lead was at 307,000 so not grea...

240,000. but if you go back to 2008, it it was over 300,000. so, again, not great news for the early vote right now for democrats in that state. when we look at the demographics, we specifically on race the african-american vote right there is about 22.7%. right now the hispanic vote 1.8% of participation. when we go back to 2012, look at that dropoff. a lot of people wonder why barack obama is going back to north carolina today. there is your answer right there. you have about a 5.3% less participation in this one and the hispanic vote has increased slightly. alisyn? >> mark, you do the math ...

Carolina? well, about 2 million people have already cast their ballots. we see who is leading right now. the democrat party is leading. at this point they have about 243,000 ballots more cast than the republican party. not always great news because, if we go deeper into that, they had a 307,000 ballot returned advantage at the same time, jake. again, not terrific news for the democratic party. we go a little bit deeper and look at the race demographics of what's happening in north carolina. the african-american voters are about 22.7% of the electorate. look at the dropoff again. a 5% dip in pa...

Tell our viewers why. >> it's kind of become a microcosm of the whole country, sort of just stuck into one state. you have a quarter of the voters who are african-american. you have an evangelical conservative population. you have an urban, more progressive, multicultural population. you have a rural, more conservative population. and so this state is sort of ground zero for both of these campaigns to get out their voters. and what the democrats are seeing is a little dispiriting for them. although in some polls, they're ahead. but the turnout of black voters, and again, it is an unfair compar...