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2ist early to make the decision about the 21st ofjune and step forward in the road map and we will make that decision based on more data in the next week to ten days and ahead of the 14th ofjune as we have set out. on the road map sets out what step 0n the road map sets out what step four means and also there are four reviews into different elements of the rules on certification and social distancing and of course on international travel and we will be answering those questions to you. leyds from channel 4?— answering those questions to you. leyds from channel 4? thank you. you are here talk...

In the next couple of weeks. that�*s absolutely clear. which is why watching the numbers, in terms of the effects of the virus as it is at the moment, and the degree of relaxation of social measures, is going to be important over the next couple of weeks. it will be politicians, not scientists, who have to make that decision. based on the data so far, it is likely to be one of the hardest, most finely—judged calls since the start of the pandemic. jim reed, bbc news. danny altmann is a professor of immunology at imperial college london. thank you forjoining us. what do you make, then, of us...