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Defense. the nra gave him a lifetime membership. josh said he didn't care about that, wanted to play video games. the 23578 family hired a lawyer appeal because they did not want this on his record. listen to his dad. >> he goes for a job and they require clearance and they say, you threatened to shoot somebody in the second grade or something crazy? >> reporter: the superintendent has now ruled and the ruling is the appeal is denied. the suspension stands. in his presentation, i have to show you, because the lawyer put these up to the superintendent and said, what's next? do we get rid of thi...

With the streak decision. the question is what does that mean for the irs. >> the irs has gone under a huge hiring influx to try and manage this law. imagine trying to manage this. for the 23578s, the penalties and fines coming forward. it's really such a burden on american families and it's so arrogant and inconsiderate that he doesn't even think about the actual financial impact of this and what it's going to have. we need less irs, not more. >> sean: you're both lawyers. david, do you remember when oral argue points when the solicitor general couldn't remember if it was tax or a penalty and...

With the streak decision. the question is what does that mean for the irs. >> the irs has gone under a huge hiring influx to try and manage this law. imagine trying to manage this. for the 23578s, the penalties and fines coming forward. it's really such a burden on american families and it's so arrogant and inconsiderate that he doesn't even think about the actual financial impact of this and what it's going to have. we need less irs, not more. >> sean: you're both lawyers. david, do you remember when oral argue points when the solicitor general couldn't remember if it was tax or a penalty and...