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And it's just as mike barnicle said. at every level of law enforcement, really, at every place in life you have good guys and bad guys. the good guys were suspicious. that it were fighting it. they were trying to deal with it. and a smaller number of bad guys were able to corrupt the system and get away with it, at least for a period of time. >> mike barnicle, it was very important to whitey bulger during this trial, in fact, it seems like the only reason he didn't plead guilty is that he was trying to convince folks that he didn't kill women or didn't participate in the killing of women, and ...