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Gaffs is the word people always uses, but people are asking, is it something different than the gaffs they're used to from him? >> it's not just the gaffs that we have heard from him that were never referred to as age. now they're talking about it in the sense of age, which is problematic going to what game and zerlina have said before. i think what the bide are not campaign is hoping for is the turnout will be a different configuration, and primaries, sue lea we call prime voters, the most loyal to the party, one of a veg small segment. what we saw in 24018 was a lot of democrats were motivat...

Democratic socialist movement to your point. that is something democrats will be worried about. my thinking in reporting and talking to people, if you're looking for change in 24018, you're not goings to vote for a republican, even if they are a little farther to the left because you want something different. >> i covered bernie sanders and while people might have had issues with the term socialist, a lot of people when you looked at what they believe in, health care for all, free quality tuition, shrinking the gap between poor people and rich people, they agreed with that. >> i agree with tha...