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Been falling, despite the presence of undocumented immigrants. the numbers have gone down over the last few years, well before this law was ever passed. >> yes. >> is that really a justification for this law? >> absolutely. because we're talking not just the volume that i shared about 241,000 that were apprehended, 500,000 to a million that are coming into our state, which is a direct threat that just last year people are saying that crime rates and everything have gone down nationally. and that is true. the illegal numbers have gone down substantially past years because of some of the gains t...

Daughter or son walking down main street -- the president did this -- with an ice cream cone and a police officer comes up and demands papers from that man. that would never happen. we have a constitution. we have fourth amendment rights that protect and safeguard against unlawful search and seizure. i have over 200 of my staff that are hispanic. what are we talking about here? >> sheriff, let me just interrupt you for one second. you did say this is a public safety issue to some extent. i'm sure you've read some of the same studies i have that said the crime rates in arizona have actually bee...

Been falling, despite the presence of undocumented immigrants. the numbers have gone down over the last few years, well before this law was ever passed. >> yes. >> is that really a justification for this law? >> absolutely. because we're talking not just the volume that i shared about 241,000 that were apprehended, 500,000 to a million that are coming into our state, which is a direct threat that just last year people are saying that crime rates and everything have gone down nationally. and that is true. the illegal numbers have gone down substantially past years because of some of the gains t...

Enter arizona, and just to give you an idea, that's 241,000 just last year alone that the border patrol apprehended, and that's a reflection of one out of every 2.6 so the border patrol's estimate is there's over half a million that come in there. we can't handle this in law enforcement so myself as a sheriff. i had ten of my police chiefs stand up and senator mccain and kyl's plan demands these 3,000 soldiers here. the reason why we want the soldiers on the boarder, and it worked in yuma where i commanded those soldiers in support our hero the border patrol agents, and while they were deploye...

>> arizona is a beautiful state and a lot of the land there is protected so we the people can enjoy it. right on the border is the national wildlife refuge. a great place to hike, take in some unique nature. part of the park has been closed because of border violence which continues to plague the state of arizona and other border places. joining us now from denver, colorado, is the sheriff in arizona who is in colorado on national guard business. sheriff, the park has been closed for some time. not the whole park. but you can't go in certain levels. so what i'm trying to get in my mind for peo...