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Pennsylvania governor ed rendell. thank you for joining me tonight. >> my pleasure, reverend. >> let me ask you, governor, you know firsthand that infrastructure means jobs. why do republicans refuse to get it? >> well, i think more and more republicans are getting it and if they can put politics aside and care about job creation, they will approve the president's plan. i testified at the first hearing of the new budget chairman blue shuster and testified for 2 1/2 hours. most of the republicans, even guys who said they were part of the tea party, said that we need to spend more money on the i...

That is significant. >> it's significant to add nearly 2 million jobs is what the nation needs right now plus a lot of capital investment. if any of your listeners or viewers think that doesn't make sense, let me tell you, every economist and analyst has said 1 billion of infrastructure spenting creates 25 tlouz jobs. there is $75 million of infrastructure spending. if you extrapolate that out, that alone is 1.77 million new jobs. i know it works, because pennsylvania and the original stimulus got $1 billion for our roads and bridges, our work on roads and bridges. we tracked it, and it create...