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Got 25.2% of the vote in iowa in 2008. 25.2%. he has not been able to hit that number in any of the polls we've seen. the highest he has been is 23%. if he comes out tonight weaker than he was last time around, would that be of concern? >> no, i don't think so, martha. we look at it as it is a 50-state primary process. it is a race to about 1200 delegates. this is the beginning of the primary season. i don't look at it like that at all. i happen to be believe that primaries are great for our party. they have, they're very common. and this is not unusual, to have, you know, having a big field l...

But, martha in the end i salute iowa for picking the person they want, regardless of electability in november, which is difficult to project any way. that's not why we have these contests, we have the contests to pick the best possible next president. it's not really a guessing game about who is going to get the nomination or elected in november. martha: do you want to say who you think will come in one, two and three tonight? >> i think it's a very close contest between rick santorum and mitt romney. obviously ron paul has that invisible army. we'll see. those are the three top people there. ...