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Clinton 279, trump 259. that is pretty surprising. quite a change in a week. >> let's dig into this. >> almost as if a week is a lifetime in politics. >> let's dig into this. just six days left. a new poll has the race in a dead heat. "the washington post"/abc news tracking poll shows trump and hillary clinton tied in a four-way race at 46% each. yesterday trump was up 46 to 45. the reuters ipsos poll gives clinton a lead after the new developments in the clinton e-mail investigation. clinton 43%, trump 37% and gary johnson at 6%. a new poll in virginia shows a five-point race to the finish. 4...

Reason that "the washington post"/abc news poll tightened so much, they are talking about motivation. trump voters are more motivated to vote at least to go vote for trump versus voting for clinton. one thing i'm wondering about that they're not measuring that could be factor is something we haven't had to think about before. negative motivation. how many people are motivated to vote against trump and how many against clinton? >> we had a lot of people that too focused on those averages. turns north carolina over to trump. says it's 279-259. you look at those averages closely. as willie said, ...

Kasie hunt, mark halperin, rick tyler and tom bevan. tom, what's going on? >> right now it's machine versus momentum. trump has momentum. polls are tightening nationally in a lot of swing states and clinton is trying to activate that machine and get as many votes in the bank as she can and keep those firewalls in some of those battleground states. >> tom, i saw yesterday chris said that -- >> north carolina moved this morning. a poll drop last night that had trump up seven. that shifted the average. so if you take our no tossup map right now, i think trump is at 259. clinton is at 279, i think...

So far has decreased to 15% from 25% four years ago. >> of course the same story "the new york times" says appears to be the case in ohio as well. i have to say, i'm rarely surprised on this show. but just talking to tom hearing this morning that the number 279-259 in real clear politics average and it's just an average, and again it's very fluid. things could change in a week in both directions. are you surprised by that, 279 to 259, mark? >> no. you know, we've talked about trump potentially at 265 for a while. we said for trump to have a chance a couple weeks ago when things were going so b...

Samuelson and someone has to ask them, are you going to make a clean break for these people. these people gave her bad advice over and over again. ultimately it's her fault. these are people -- i don't know how they can work on an administration and if corruption is her biggest weakness, how is she going to convey to the american people that she will not continue with a corrupt administration and it seems these people from e-mails we're reading in wikileaks, these people seem to be the problem. they're the enablers. >> willie, what do you make of this north carolina moving in real clear politi...