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Rallies and kind of use that public anger to help further their ideological agenda to get rid of government, help pad their profits and at the same time, going to be hurting everyone else. >> i think a perfect storm. you have the tea party coming in, citizens united that lets them spend unlimited money. at the same time, my god this is a better return on investment than i imagined. the republicans giving us everything we wanted, right, put all that together, you think it is winning time, right? >> exactly. i think if you look at the success they had in the 2010 elections,ing if you look at now...

Democrats. they use that in 100 races across the country in congress. and with that money, they held rallies, they did phone banks, they canvas door to door pretending to be grassroots when in fact all they cared was not just about the congressman but specifically about the house energy and commerce committee. and what did they do there? they spent $279,500 and they gave it to 22 of 31 republicans on the committee. they also gave 32,000 to five democrats. now, why did the americans for prosperity care about the new republicans on the house panel? i'll get to that in a second. look at what they...