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"tell ron hickman that 287g tears families apart." ron hick mapp was the sheriff of harris county, houston, it's 4.5 million people. we're talking about montana earlier in the show. harris county alone has four times the population of all of montana. the decision facing sheriff hickman last june with the protests in the streets was whether his department would renew or end an agreement that he had made with the federal government, under that oddly named 287g. the idea behind 287g is that counties can sign a contract with the feds that allows the federal government to basically deputize local l...

Named 287g. the idea behind 287g is that counties can sign a contract with the feds that allows the federal government to basically deputize local law enforcement to turn local police, local sheriffs into federal immigration enforcement officers. the policy has evolved over time, but the lasting criticism of it is that it hurts local law enforcement efforts. it makes immigrant communities afraid to call the police, even when they need help. if you're the victim of a crime, you need to be able to call police, even if you are undocumented.

Marched from the convention center to the harris county jail. they had signs reading "time is running outend to 87 jg" also "tell ron hickman that 287g tears families apart." ron hick mapp was the sheriff of harris county, houston, it's 4.5 million people. we're talking about montana earlier in the show. harris county alone has four times the population of all of montana. the decision facing sheriff hickman last june with the protests in the streets was whether his department would renew or end an agreement that he had made with the federal government, under that oddly named 287g. the idea beh...

Here or not. same thing, in fact, if they couldn't give you identification where they were living. i would think that would be probably some type of reasonable suspicion. if they ran away, that would be reasonable suspicion. you know, law enforcement have rules. they understand that racial profiling will not be tolerated by this governor or the people of the united states. it's against the law. they are trained. >> do you intend to appeal the 287g -- the fact that it has been cancelled as it relates to arizona? >> you know, i don't know if i can appeal it. it is actually the federal government...

Mccain, john tile, ted kennedy, george bush were all behind. so finding a way to have sensible immigration laws that in fact uphold our laws, that do defend our borders, but also speak to the narrative and the aspirations of immigrants to this country, that's a very important core issue for us and it needs to be resolve. it needs to be resolved by the president working with the congress, however, because this is too important for one branch of government to died it on its own. >> how do we get that to happen? you talked about in 2007 there was a bipartisan approach to it, and yet there's also ...