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This slow recovery. and today was especially bad news on that front. it is important to recognize that the shutdown probably affected this report, but the directions of some of these changes, the sharp drop in the labor force, the sharp drop in the fact that people are looking for work, that's bad news. patti ann: yeah. and, again, to the underemployed people who are working part time when they really need full-time jobs and those are a lot of people taking jobs below their skill level, beau their pay grade -- below their pay grade. so what would you say is the, quote, real unemployment number...

Abomination that is not anywhere near what the president said it would be. i think the country would have been a lot further along rather than getting size tracked on the shut down issue. the really issue of the day is obama care. it's the president of the united states who stood up in front of people for literally years who said if you like your policy, you can keep it. one of the interesting things that you had on earlier, the president said he was working very, very hard moving people into the middle class. that's another trust issue this president has. the numbers came out today and unempl...

Economy? 45% approve. 49% disapprove. and yet there is a feeling, as we go into this, that the people holding the cards is the white house. >> i'm surprised those numbers with that good, quite honestly. the economy is stuck in a rut. it has been since the president arrived in washington. his tour, his economics tour, offers absolutely nothing new. even "the washington post" is mocking the content of this. it's about dividing the country once again in preparation for another food fight in washington, and it's about the midterm elections. >> i'm sorry. what was the unemployment number when the p...

Rate improved slightly, though near a 4-year low, which means that not that many people are working ultimately. and the other part that is most troublesome is the real unemployment rate. that went up to 14.3% from 13.8%. that's really the people that are either taking part-time jobs, so they really want a full-time job. so a lot of people that somehow are working 'cause they got to put food on the table, but not really where they want to be ultimately. >> jesse: talk about putting food on the table, i went to the supermarket the other day to stock up for my barbecue over the weekend and i shel...

Themselves, isn't it? >> well, they sure liked his help on wall street but is the help trickling down to main street? that's my concern. the job number was very good but look at the internals, the u-6. that didn't do too well -- >> that's that? >> how many more unemployed people we added to the ranks. 17,000 more. it went from 13.8 to 14.3. look at the quality of jobs. we hit all-time high for percentage of parttime workers now, neil, and that's a direct result of obamacare. maybe we'll get an increase in that because mr. obama has given us a year before it has to be implemented so we have an ...