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Santorum has to do well enough up here in new hampshire this tuesday to be strong enough in south carolina to win. >> absolutely. >> can he win if -- if gingrich is still floating around and perry is still floating around? >> well, that makes it difficult. as i said, if rick santorum is going to be the guy they are going to real around, he's got to do well here. just getting into double digits, by the way, is not enough. i think if he finishes behind ron paul, for example, that's a disaster. >> right. >> for santorum. >> right now he's starting at 43 for romney and he's 5. >> yes. >> how high ...

Point. i think i think histologic makes sense. santorum has to do well enough up here in new hampshire this tuesday to be strong enough in south carolina to win. >> absolutely. >> can he win if -- if gingrich is still floating around and perry is still floating around? >> well, that makes it difficult. as i said, if rick santorum is going to be the guy they are going to real around, he's got to do well here. just getting into double digits, by the way, is not enough. i think if he finishes behind ron paul, for example, that's a disaster. >> right. >> for santorum. >> right now he's starting at...

>> can he win if -- if gingrich is still floating around and perry is still floating around? >> well, that makes it difficult. as i said, if rick santorum is going to be the guy they are going to rally around, he's got to do well here. just getting into double digits, by the way, is not enough. i think if he finishes behind ron paul, for example, that's a disaster. >> right. >> for santorum. >> right now he's starting at 43 for romney and he's 5. >> yes. >> how high does he have to climb between 5 and 43? >> listen, politics is not fair. the expectations are raised for him now. >> is 35/25 goo...