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Already. >> eric: griotd point that kimberly makes. trillion dollars in shovel ready. >> i don't have enough time to address all of that. we have breodz broken and need to be fixed. people rely on those roads to get to work, they will have to pay and they may not be able to afford it. share those costs and, yes, it does create jobs, construction jobs. >> eric: we threw a graphic, $356 billion is in the budget for fixing roads and bridges already, but they want to raise more. >> eric, one cent tax raises $1.8 billion. if it done on budget and finance these things, wayne, you say you can repai...

Quality education at no cost to the public for many, many years. >> bill: when you say at no cost to the public, it's $450 million a year. that's a lot of taxpayer cost. but let me just ask you this: i like pbs programming especially for kids. you did a nice job for a long time on that and it was very educational. the sesame workshop, which is the big driver on pbstv, their assets, according to the irs 2011 filing, $356 billion. that's what the sesame workshop is worth. so i'm going to submit to you, mr. burton, that they can compete in the free marketplace like cartoon channel and others beca...

Quality education at no cost to the public for many, many years. >> bill: when you say at no cost to the public, it's $450 million a year. that's a lot of taxpayer cost. but let me just ask you this: i like pbs programming especially for kids. you did a nice job for a long time on that and it was very educational. the sesame workshop, which is the big driver on pbstv, their assets, according to the irs 2011 filing, $356 billion. that's what the sesame workshop is worth. so i'm going to submit to you, mr. burton, that they can compete in the free marketplace like cartoon channel and others beca...

Quality education at no cost to the public for many, many years. >> bill: when you say at no cost to the public, it's $450 million a year. that's a lot of taxpayer cost. but let me just ask you this: i like pbs programming especially for kids. you did a nice job for a long time on that and it was very educational. the sesame workshop, which is the big driver on pbstv, their assets, according to the irs 2011 filing, $356 billion. that's what the sesame workshop is worth. so i'm going to submit to you, mr. burton, that they can compete in the free marketplace like cartoon channel and others beca...