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Administration. we looked at it and we would roughly need 6 million jobs in the first four years just to stay even with population growth. so 2.5 million jobs the unemployment rate would increase. jimmy carter created 10.5 million jobs in his first four years. >> i think it is amazeing that people who we have lost 2.5 million jobs in this country and there is another state that is. >> that position to that that created a million jobs and for people to go that is not enough. any job at this this particular point in time helps. you give confidence to the american people. give you a good example,...

Permanent. we did this once before in 2004 for an experiment and companies brought home 360 billion and half used for jobs or capitol spending according to the studies. this is a great idea. john chambers said bring home a trillion and not a taxpayer dollar. >> we should say not a tax forgiveness. >> they would have to pay 5 or eight percent on this. >> i understand take it as you can. and get a tax cuts out of these in congress who don't know what they are doing . and don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. you can do social engineering with the companies. a senate report 150 billion ...

Or, if president obama is reelected will have is the 15 trillion-dollar debt. so if your revenue stream under this plan and i don't know, i mean, it would be hard to crunch the numbers this quickly comes down, even though you will stimulate the economy and i believe that, that federal debt is going to massively go up because of all the obligations that the federal government has. >> bill, i truly belief that you have got to grow your way out of this. the bottom line is we have got to cut the spending. but when you give people inincentives. for instance, bringing back those over trillion dollar...

Or, if president obama is reelected will have is the 15 trillion-dollar debt. so if your revenue stream under this plan and i don't know, i mean, it would be hard to crunch the numbers this quickly comes down, even though you will stimulate the economy and i believe that, that federal debt is going to massively go up because of all the obligations that the federal government has. >> bill, i truly belief that you have got to grow your way out of this. the bottom line is we have got to cut the spending. but when you give people inincentives. for instance, bringing back those over trillion dollar...