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>> so, you pushed back. obviously took down a lot of people. it stops. >> to me, it's how i explain it. all right, good deal. moral goes up. i think we can all feel it. it still wasn't over. we're going to see our defenses and they're going to be coming back. there was a big break there. >> two hours. at what point did you hear about ambassador stevens? >> there was a ds agent and he got a phone call and that's how we found out that he was at the hospital. >> by 1:00 a.m., local looters and curiosity seekers had entered the consulate grounds and infiltrated the safe haven. six apparently good ...

Obviously took down a lot of people. it stops. >> to me, it's how i explain it. all right, good deal. moral goes up. i think we can all feel it. it still wasn't over. we're going to see our defenses and they're going to be coming back. there was a big break there. >> two hours. at what point did you hear about ambassador stevens? >> there was a ds agent and he got a phone call and that's how we found out that he was at the hospital. >> by 1:00 a.m., local looters and curiosity seekers had entered the consulate grounds and infiltrated the safe haven. six apparently good samaritans come across a...

All right. good deal. morale goes up. i think all of us could feel it that it wasn't over yet. that was a probe. they are going to come back with a bigger force. that's what we would do. >> there's a break there. >> two hours. >> two, two and a half hours. >> at what point do you hear about ambassador stephens? >> there was a ds agent up on the building with jack. he got a phone call. that's how we found out that he 1:00 a.m., local looters and curiosity seekers have entered the consulate and infiltrated the safe haven. six apparently good samaritans come across an unresponsive man. they take ...

Forth in the cables and discussions, you need 3ds agent or you need five? we had five there but we had an unprecedented attack as one of the former rsoes, regional security officers, testified. an attack that truly was not expected on though on that night we had the requisite number of ds agents. we can get mired in the back and forth but i believe we will be doing more to help prevent future tragedies and attacks if we take the arb recommendations because after all they had no stake in this debate one way or the other. they just wanted to look at the facts which they did an excellent job doin...

Public. i appreciate the fact of the transparency of this hearing. why weren't we transparent to that point in time? >> first of all, senator, i would say that once the assault happened and once we got our people rescued and out, our immediate most concern was number one taking care of their injuries. as i said, i still have a ds agent at walter reed seriously injured. getting them into frankfurt to get taken care of. the fbi going over immediately to start talking to them. we did not think it was appropriate for us to talk to them before the fbi conducted their interview. we did not -- i thin...