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Trans fats are still allowed in foods when the label says zero. >> here you go. because i went and bought this today just for this prop and i opened it. and -- >> and you ate it? >> rosa perez -- rosa florez, rosa perez, i can't believe i called her that. rosa and i ate this popcorn as soon as we opened it, as soon as we got it here. listen, bonnie, why does it taste so good and it's so bad for you? >> well, you know, the thing is, is trans fat inherently doesn't taste that different than real fat. what trans fat's done it's allowed food companies to create a shelf-stable oil that stays on the...

Vani? >> it's a great discussion. >> that's true? okay. let's see. someone said, don, you're way too excited about that honey bun. yes, i am. that's true. i want some popcorn, too. vani for you as well, pop secret popcorn said it has zero grams of trans fat. >> but it has partially hydrogenated on the ingredient label and if you eat more than one cup, you're going to get trans fat, and, remember, 40-calorie increase increases your heart rate -- disease rate by 23%. >> okay. so, then, what do we do? because they're taking it out -- you guys, are you the food -- people are saying what is with th...

Oils are trans fats. the regulations state that the food labels must have the trans fat amount on there, but if it is under -- >> right. >> -- 0.5 grams they don't actually have to declare it, it can say zero grams trans fats but if you go on to the ingredients it may say partially hydrogenated oils. >> if we look at this, oh, my gosh, do you remember honey buns, right? this honey bun has a 0.5 grams of trans fats. do they have to declare that? >> no. they don't have to declare anything less than 0.5. so, here's where the tricky situation comes in, is if you eat more than one serving you could...