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To you? >> if you look at the proportions of the gentleman's arm in the middle of the flag to the field alone, it's larger than a 3x5. i would say the smallest it would be would be a 5x8. >> yeah, that's not the same flag. doesn't look like it. at the time, it was not a big event. it was let's get the flag and make sure it is out on the ships doing the strikes. >> that flag brought up emotion that is very difficult to describe. i'd never seen so many grown men and women cry just by touching a piece of fabric. of course it wasn't just a piece of fabric, was it? >> gets me emotional. >> american...

Well. there's votto, senator schumer, sunny. >> there's only one picture also. >> i do remember who i gave the flag to after that? i don't. i don't. i don't. >> it seems like it's an awful lot of material he's holding. this is a 3x5. if you compare the bulk of that material to this, it's definitely a larger flag. we're used to carrying around a 3x5. i can pull any flag off of the shelf and know if it is a 2x3 or 3x5 just holding it. i could have my eyes closed, the weight of it. when you are used to dealing with flags every day you just know. you don't have to look at the tag or the label. you...