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What this has cost us and compare it to the food stamp program. >> please do that. >> it makes no sense whatsoever to shut down the government, costing billions and billions and making it $1.40 for what a person has to buy their lunch, dinner and break fast. it's outrageous, it's wrong and need to turn it around. >> congresswoman carolyn maloney. >> thank you for your concern. >> thank you. stay with us. your trick-or-treat top lines are coming up. and whatever you do, do not follow the republicans' yellow brick road. >> while you're from kansas, we're not in kansas anymore. some might say t...

No prospect of a job, you have to be able to feed yourself. until we can get an economy moving that puts people back to work, what are these folks supposed to do? it's just beyond my comprehension that they can't just spend a little bit of time talking to real people in flint, saginaw, or any district in america. there are poor people. for some reason, they just don't know these folks. they just don't understand them. >> so you're telling me the constituents of your district in michigan aren't choosing to not work, so that they can collect, you know, $1.40 per meal on snap. >> it's the biggest...

But they are able to set up their own programs now. they're able to have better control over -- >> where are they going to get the money for these programs? >> they still get the federal money. what they're doing, they're increasing the work requirements that are already in place in federal law, that welfare reform advocated signed off on the last 20 years and they're increasing federal matches for people who do this in order to increase the -- >> on work requirements, do you genuinely think, are you sitting here looking me in the face saying, there are a lot of people, hundreds of thousands, ...

You're disincentivizing -- >> the logic of the policy, quite frankly, is that we are disincentivizing people getting into the labor market by giving them $1.40 for every meal, and we need to put work requirements, otherwise, the government, with its tasty, tasty candy will lure people away from being productive members of society, in an economy that has 7.5% unemployment. it is completely nonsensical. >> i also would like to know, how many lottery winners and dead people, if you're endorsing this policy, how many lottery winners and dead people -- do you think that we are funding? >> but does ...

Into the labor market by giving them $1.40 for every meal, and we need to put work requirements, otherwise, the government, with its tasty, tasty candy will lure people away from being productive members of society, in an economy that has 7.5% unemployment. it is completely nonsensical. >> i also would like to know, how many lottery winners and dead people, if you're endorsing this policy, how many lottery winners and dead people -- do you think that we are funding? >> but does it really matter? if you're someone who believes in the safety net, which we all do, we just disagree to the extent t...