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What we're saying is americans around the country across every kind of dividing line will understand and together insys that we come together and do the right thing. >> it's really logical except that second part will be impeached and removed from office. the removed from office does depend on the senate under the constitution. and we have not seen indications that members of the senate faced with the same evidence that you and i have read 438 pages of the mueller report and lots of other things, seem unmoved. >> well, i think that what is going to move them, ali is, what i just said. and that...

>> it's highly detailed but it's not the easiest read. >> it needs to be interpreted for the american people. >> how does that happen? >> congress doesn't seem to have fi pla any plans for that. people any open an impeachment inquiry, that's impeachment. it's not. you don't know what the evidence will take you, whether you have the votes. that's a different point. the american people have to understand what's in mueller report and congress has the responsibility to translate that report for the american people and present the facts to them. >> when you read little sentences like the one i just...

That kamala harris said that what robert mueller was saying is that congress should pick up this mantle and do stuff. we heard that interpretation from a lot of people. for whatever reason, in this 438 page document and in what robert mueller said today, he colors between the lines. he does not say things explicitly as people like me would hope he would. today there were a lot of people were hoping he would spell it out. he said look at the point on page two of volume two which said if we could have concludesed the president didn't commit a crime, we would have. he was not explicit as he could...

Were reluctant to join until later as well. you never know. gloria borger, you've been covering this like me from the beginning. a substantial comment from robert mueller happening in fewer than 20 minutes here. so a substantial statement. how significant is this moment to hear his first public comments? >> i think it's as i think shimon said earlier, i think it's a substantial moment for the country. i think everybody wants to hear from bob mueller. democrats and republicans. what we've heard from him is his 438-page document and the letter that he sent to the attorney general, which was stun...

Administration, we don't need the congress. again, that is what they're there for. that's what they're paid to do. >> we're going to table this, pay a few bills. stay there, don't move, when we come back we will continue this conversation. in the next hour, my friend alex witt will be interviewing presidential candidate 438 seth moulton. that will be interesting. watch that today at 12:00 noon eastern. t 12:00 noon eastern. steakhouse dinner, now at outback. get your choice of soup or salad, entrée like our signature sirloin, and dessert, starting at $14.99. hurry in for this complete dinner ...