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[ overlapping speakers ] >> i don't have a problem with that. let me respond if i might and penda i'll come to you. i don't have a problem with showing an i.d. before you vote, but you've got to be reasonable and take into account the community you're serving and say hey, what kind of an i.d. might the folks who reside here possess and when i look in my hometown newspaper and see in the county where i was born, 25,449 lack a driver's license or state issued non-driver's license and then the country where i live now, 44,952. it really brings it home for me. penda, what's going on here? >> well,...

Now, 44,952. it really brings it home for me. penda, what's going on here? >> well, what's going on is that the state of pennsylvania has passed one of the most onerous barriers to voting i've ever seen. they knocked out three quarters of a million voters or more. that's registered voters. and for example, we're suing over this law and our case is going to court in a couple of weeks and we are very, very hopeful that the court will strike this down because we have a 93-year-old plaintiff who marched with martin luther king, who cannot get her birth certificate and therefore can't get the i.d. ...