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Profits and stuff like that. fast forward to today. he's president. he could do something. zip! >> that's right. if you look at the summer of 2008, when george bush was president, it reached $4.11 a gallon. the media was all over president bush. it is your fault. you're not doing anything about it. they really just went to town on him. exact opposite today. the establishment media has not taken off on the price of gas. >> let's look at what it was under george w. bush. when he took office in january of 2001 it was $1.49. and when he left it was $1.84. it got as high as $4.11 a gallon during hi...

Benefit, once expansive, but once settled upon i said let's see if we can make this as good a program as we can to save money. well, we did. medicare prescription drug program has come in 40% under budget. i was not for and did not advocate for the comprehensive benefit, nor did advocate for it not being paid for, a lot of things in the bill set the template for reform which would save far more money than the expn expapgs of the benefit. those are the things when you're a congressman you have to make those kind of checks, make those kind of decisions that sometimes, as i said in this case was ...

More years if he loses ohio? >> you'd have to come up with something. >> how? >> you'd have to pick up other states that if you're losing -- >> if you win florida you can win without ohio but it becomes a two or three electoral vote margin. the president has to win pennsylvania. >> florida is harder to get than ohio. why would that happen? let's get back to this, ohio. tim russert was brilliant at this figuring out the state that would matter the most. what do you think it is now? >> it's -- i would say florida, pennsylvania or ohio. >> yeah. >> it's going to be -- >> whoever wins two out of t...

Of areas. >> oh, yeah, i think you're right. here's an interesting point and didn't want to trick you into this because, todd, you're smart about politics and you're almost as smart as i am, this thing about -- here we are talking about an election like this, like this. 50/50, 51/49, is it going to be like that? could it be a wipeout against the president if the economy stays stinking like this? i don't know. >> you can have elections very, very close in terms of a vote but still look like a wipe youth in terms of the electoral outlook. >> popular vote. >> i think popular vote is going to be v...

For no apparent accomplishment. whatever problems we have now pale in comparison to that. it really could have been one of those negative developments. this was a tough call. you know, the really tough calls in politics or life are 51/49s. they're not 90/10s. this was a close call with enormous stakes. he deserves -- the troops obviously deserve all the credit for the implementation, but he deserves a lot of credit for making a very tough call. >> no doubt about it. >> he's getting it, he's getting it from republicans who are typically quite critical and democrats support him, but i keep heari...