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>> good morning, how you are you? >> shannon: there is a lot of debate about whether sequestration is supposed to be painful and obviously pain. when it came counselors t downd people were stuck on o the tarmac congress did something about one agency being able to have flexibility here. >> look, the administration had the ability to be flexible. could move 2% of the funds around within the department of transportation within the faa to avoid some of this. but it chose not to. in fact, what is interesting to me is think about this, the consultant budget at the faa is $500 million. their supplie...

Supplies and travel and didn't do it. they could have said we aren't paying for what we got so please don't start this new program. please revoke the authority for the $474 million sustainable and liveable grant program and the whole problem at the faa could have been avoided. >> shannon: i got to ask you a big week down in it texas this week for your former president george w. bush. what do you think of the reflex positive and some negative as well, just a few months out. >> the museum is inspiring and deeply moving. i watched people including some hard bitten journalists come out of washing ...

Controllers. >> let me ask you this. i thought the sequestration wasn't really a cut but slowed growth. >> it is. >> i don't understand why there is any cut to begin with if it was slow growth. you think we would have the status quo, at best. >> look, this is because the budget is bigger. let me give you an example. this is what really gripes me. there is a $474 million new program, a grant program that the faa gives out to sustainable and livable communities. you think when we have an important function like air-traffic controllers, the first thing we do is take our money and apply it to thin...

Controllers. >> let me ask you this. i thought the sequestration wasn't really a cut but slowed growth. >> it is. >> i don't understand why there is any cut to begin with if it was slow growth. you think we would have the status quo, at best. >> look, this is because the budget is bigger. let me give you an example. this is what really gripes me. there is a $474 million new program, a grant program that the faa gives out to sustainable and livable communities. you think when we have an important function like air-traffic controllers, the first thing we do is take our money and apply it to thin...

This. and 474 million in grants to make communities more liveable and sustainable. there is your pile of loot. use that to pay for these guys. >> i live in washington. i'm sitting here right now. i can tell you there has never been a richer city in the history of the worlds. there are construction cranes on every block. why? federal spending is higher than it ever been. you can't look me in the face and say we need to keep people sitting on the tarmac two hours because can he can't afford enough air traffic controllers? that is ridiculous. come on, alan. >> actually republicans are playing pol...