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Altered. he made a surprise visit down to georgia to investigate an audit for a local -- for a county finding. and so he's one of three people, pence, steve bannon, and jeffrey clark, they're the only ones who are facing contempt. right? why is that? it is incredibly important that donald trump's right-hand man was implicated in everything and refuses to talk about it. and so i think he's in a world of trouble. but we'll see how -- we'll have to see how this plays out. there is a long paper trail, more than 475 people have talked to the committee. i am confident the story will come out. >> the...

Do not show the calls already known by the committee and publicly reported? >> well, jonathan, what i would say is the work of the committee, our purpose is to provide a full accounting of everything that led up to january 6th, on the day of january 6th and even the events immediately after. and it really is why we're talking to so many people, 475 people have come before the committee. and it is really taking a lot of information from a lot of people to paint this full picture. so, you know, there may be a lot of details coming out here or there in little bits and pieces. once the committee p...

Were going to run into roadblocks. so -- now, what has played out is that while some of these highest paid and top level people might be willing to fight the committee, might have the money to pay high-powered lawyers, many lower ranking people do not, and the way the trump white house was run and the trump campaign was run, is that lots of people were swirling in and out, so you know, meetings would have multiple people, some people coming into the room, some people coming out of the room, and some of those were lower level people who heard lots of things, who might have been the back of the ...

A cult-like leader, but we follow the rule of law. >> the line of the day so far, this ain't any old former president. congressman eric swalwell, thank you for coming to "the sunday show." joining me now, msnbc legal analyst, neal katyal, former acting u.s. solicitor general and now georgetown law professor. neal, thank you for coming back to "the sunday show." rudy giuliani, sydney powell are both scheduled for questioned tuesday. only powell says she'll show up. do you think will get any real answers or will she plead the fifth? >> i don't think we'll get any real answers from them, jonathan...

Canvassers and some of them have been identified as having been working with a political party of florida. they were knocking on these doors basically telling people, we want to change -- we want to give you a new updated voter i.d. card. we want to make sure that your address is updated. we want to make sure that your signature is accurate. and people who just trust it that these canvassers were there in good faith, pretty much signed, did not look at the rest of the form, and then one month later, two months later they get an i.d. card this is republican party. what we found is that the tren...