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When you look at the 18 to 24-year-old group, you'll find that 66% of african-american females, 18 to 24 don't have it, and 78% of african-american men between 18 and 24 don't have this i.d. >> let me say this, congresswoman, one of the significant points that people need to understand how insane this is, in your state, 3 million people voted, only 26 cases found of fraud. this is really motivate d it wa 414,000,818 votes. that's what he won by. voters lacking proper i.d. now in your state is 475,000, so the politics of this is that if they can stop people from voting, it's the margin of victo...

President obama in 2008 won wisconsin by 414,818 votes to be exact. with this voter i.d. law, according to one study, this is the -- they would affect 475,000 peopleç of voting age who don' have proper i.d., so you're actually talking about a margin of victory that could be impacted politically next year if these voter i.d. laws go into effect. i know that's not the league's motive, but i want people to understand this is no just casual matter. we're talking about what could really be a deciding factor in a presidential election in the state. >> that's correct, and -- and every vote counts a...

Provideling the proper incentives. >> the market wouldn't do it without a subsidy 100 times bigger than no sub de. >> any green job created for $475,000 for brain job. i have a background in business. >> i haven't heard that one. is that true? does it make it worth that? >> i haven't heard it. >> haven't we learned lessons from europe? >> no, never learned any lessons 2-3 percent of their energy generation. >> 4.9 percent in the united states. >> after 30 years we haven't learned. we have a $14.3 trillion debt.

And certainly wind energy provideling the proper incentives. >> the market wouldn't do it without a subsidy 100 times bigger than no sub de. >> any green job created for $475,000 for brain job. i have a background in business. >> i haven't heard that one. is that true? does it make it worth that? >> i haven't heard it. >> haven't we learned lessons from europe? >> no, never learned any lessons 2-3 percent of their energy generation. >> 4.9 percent in the united states. >> after 30 years we haven't learned. we have a $14.3 trillion debt.

Hated in issue, and even the democratic staffers were probably happy to see them disappear. >>neil: so republicans brought the plastic forks and knives and other stuff, and just caused environmental havoc? >>guest: that is right. they, the democrats are raising cancer, and people losing days of work, if you read the letter from the congressman, they make alarming claims that there will be less sick days and they are stretching any kind of scientific evidence here. but the bottom line is, these would not necessarily be more eco friendly but according to the "los angeles times" it actually incre...