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Still with us a.b. and erin. as they say on the nature specials, are we about to see a thinning of the herd? >> well, you know, i don't know how many democratic candidates you can fit on a debate stage but we may well find out before next year. listen, i think this is exactly what we extpected as you mentioned. you have eric swalwell dropping out in a not great showing in the next presidential debate, we'll see some more people fall off here after this upcoming presidential debate in detroit at the end of this month and then you've got more debating coming up later this summer. you know, i thi...

We have seven months until iowa. we have 484 days until november 3rd, 2020. that's plenty of time for candidates to introduce themselves and for a nominee to emerge. >> take a breath, return to our happy place and in the meantime, we have to discuss mr. omash of michigan. with great fanfare and ceremony, he's saying good-bye to the republican party. he's not closing the door to the notion of running as a third party candidate, one of my favorite games in politics, a.b., is to ask the question who would that hurt if he ran or as if anyone ran as a substantive third party candidate? >> well, if ...

Reminder that isn't until february of next year. still with us a.b. and erin. as they say on the nature specials, are we about to see a thinning of the herd? >> well, you know, i don't know how many democratic candidates you can fit on a debate stage but we may well find out before next year. listen, i think this is exactly what we expected as you mentioned. you have eric swalwell dropping out in a not great showing in the next presidential debate, we'll see some more people fall off here after this upcoming presidential debate in detroit at the end of this month and then you've got more debat...

To get his. the testimony but if they do he can't imagine mueller defying the law. mueller made it clear he doesn't want to do this. do you believe he has an obligation to speak directly to the american people. >> i think if congress asks him he'll go -- >> subpoena or no subpoena. >> i doubt he would need a subpoena to come. he'll show up. he made it perfectly clear he really doesn't want to do this. that doesn't mean he wouldn't and doesn't mean there's not value from the american people to hear from him at least in summary form. >> most americans have not read the 484 page report because th...

Nearly nonstop scrutiny for this trump white house so we thought we would take the opportunity tonight to look at that very dynamic. a little more than two years ago this month robert mueller, a justice department veteran with a dozen years at the helm of the fbi was asked to take over the most politically charged investigation since watergate. he was appointed special counsel shortly after president trump's decision to fire a different fbi director james comey. mueller's task to uncover any lengths or coordination between the russian government and individuals associated with the trump campai...