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To watch today and how they vote. what are you keeping an eye on? >> david's right. the math is still really tough, so basically collins is a hard no, so now and mccain is coming back, which to be honest 24 hours ago i would say probably wouldn't happen, so this is clearly they're hoping giving them momentum. i think it is hard to say to john mccain come back from arizona given what he's fighting to be the 48th vote to begin debate on this. you know, my guess is they were able to say you'd be the 50th vote, but that means, all those people that you just showed, alisyn, including lisa murkowski...

That paul ryan and now mitch mcconnell say they're going to play hostage-taking with the debt ceiling. i mean, i understand that. >> well, i'll tell you what. you had the deal last week with senator murray and budget chairman ryan. they all said good things. we all understand it. you're exactly right. you point out some very positive things in this budget. but then supposedly trying to be an honest broker, to his own caucus, ryan goes out and starts talking about what they're looking for to get out of the debt ceiling. i mean, this is still the nasty environment of us versus them. and we're al...

Be. >> yes. >> we've got to sort this thing out. i am an advocate for those meeting the basics in life, and having a chance to get back. >> of course. >> into the economy. and i just think it's -- it's a tough vote, but i think it's the wrong vote. and i hope you turn around and hold them hostage on the farm bill. >> yeah, but ed, could i just say this? if you love a no vote, you love republicans. because republicans voted no in the senate. only a few voted with us. so this thing is not as straight forward as you might spin it. may i say. but i'm going to show you, and prove to you that when w...

To me, that's the tough vote. and it was a tough vote for the democrats. but i believe it was the morally correct vote, considering there's no ledger. dealing with boehner. these democrats know that there is no way republicans are going to extend unemployment benefits in 2014. that hurts to say that. so there's a calculation being made, i think, that the democrats will get through this politically. and they'll figure something out. they'll go out and they're going to campaign hard, and they're going to make the folks really feel bad about the republicans. but as i said, you can't eat pr. it ta...

Thursday afternoon, that would be, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, that might be, eight or nine or ten votes? >> thursday afternoon would be the 7th and 8th vote. 8th or 9th if you count yesterday afternoon. by the end of day i still think we would see black smoke. i would be surprised if we did see white. by end of the day, four votes. two more tomorrow morning we may getting down to one or two persons by tomorrow morning. clear that up tomorrow afternoon. who knows, you talk to the chimney camera, okay? >> yeah. we know the jamming, the jamming works so. bill: indeed. joan lewis, th...