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I think the "post" has done us an enormous service by pointing out what has been a well-known secret in washington for the last couple of years. and that is there is enormous bloat, enormous waste, and this system has gotten totally out of control. we have now an intelligence homeland security complex that rivals anything that eisenhower might have talked about when he talked about the military-industrial complex. >> and to go back to 9/11, or better, to 9/10, the problem seems to be not so much lack of resources or lack of personnel, but as i read your experience, the problem was the inabilit...

Which is now out in paperback. thank you for your time tonight, richard clark. >> thank you. i think "the post" has done us an enormous service by pointing out what has been a well-known secret in washington for the last couple of years. that is, there is enormous bloat, enormous waste, and this system has gotten totally out of control. we have now an intelligence homeland security complex that rivals anything that eisenhower might have talked about when he talked about the military industrial complex. >> and to go back to 9/11, or better, to 9/10, the problem seems to be not so much lack of r...

Democratic president. >> there is something wrong, though, with -- we have great corporate profitability right now. a stock market record high, interest rates at record low, very low. available capital to businesses. there isn't a cry for more corporate tax cuts yet we're doing it on the backs of the poor. >> they are calling this stimulus at a time when, you just described, does not need stimulus. not only doesn't need stimulus. the economy can't use it. it's like going into a gas station and your tank is 9/10 full. you can't put 20 gallons in it. can only put in a gallon at that point. and n...

Before. is this a message to say let's pump the gas a little bit here? some quite strong words coming from mike warner, ron wyden and others. and if the senate intelligence committee doesn't have that bipartisan feel, less hope with the house intelligence committee. it's a real problem going forward. because you need a bipartisan effort to have credibility. >> is this like a vicious cycle? is anything being done to remedy this? >> right now -- we heard later today two more staffers are going to be added. that keeps it into double digits or so. staffers who are working on this. they say they're...

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