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First thing you want to see is where did they come from? if they come from here, it's imperative joe biden makes a big move. he has to close the gap. it's not philadelphia. he's closing the gap some. in the biden campaign you're thinking we've got a shot at this. i want to go back in time to play this out. this is pennsylvania and you see, midnight, 548,000. the president looks like he's comfortably ahead at midnight. then you come through here to 2:00 a.m., he builds to 709,000 in pennsylvania. 3:00 a.m., it starts to shrink a little bit, 589,000 and change. by the time you here at 3:00 this ...

You talk about there may be a couple of moves before things are actually decided given the fact that joe biden is at 253 electoral votes. if pennsylvania goes towards joe biden, there's only one move, that's 20 electoral votes, that gets him to 273. however, take a look at the margin right now, donald trump is leading in pennsylvania by 164,000 votes. >> the biggest margin in the mix. >> you go through the five major states outstanding right now that are still too close to call, this is the biggest one by far. however, take a look at this. take a look at what has happened since midnight, donal...