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And say i have a five year plan to knock off cnn, i thought the guy was drinking kool-aid. >> i do believe that over time fox has become a really powerful news operation. >> cnn had a 16 year head start. but in 5 and a half years fox news was number one in viewer ship. today fox news had an average of 1.77 million viewers in prime time. cnn has 577,000. fox more than doubled cnn or msnbc in prime time. >> you came from sienna. what struck you when you got here? >> when i was working at cnn we had a large staff. we had 60 and 85 people. >> we have a super large staff. >> we had like 12. >> i th...

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And say i have a five-year plan to knock off cnn, i thought he was drinking kool-aid. >> i do believe that over time fox has become a really powerful news operation. >> cnn had a 16-year head start. but in five and a half years fox news was number one in viewer ship. today fox news has an average of 1.77 million viewers in primetime. cnn has 577,000. fox more than doubles cnn and msnbc in primetime. >> you came from cnn. what struck you? >> when i was at cnn we had a large staff. we had between 60, 65 people. >> we have a super large staff. >> we have like 12. i think everybody here has to be ...

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