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It scares me a lot. and how hopeful are you that we can beat this back? >> well, i'm hopeful because i believe in people. i believe in young people. i believe in the promise of this country. but i think this is, you know, a 60/40 proposition maybe if you're an optimist because you look at who they nominated. up and down the ballot all across the country, there are election deniers. again, not just they're saying we think trump won because we have to say that. they're now saying, you know, going forward, they're going to make it harder to vote, and they want to set up systems so they decide who...

Corruption, what is interesting we're seeing in the southwest, mexicans, 60% of all hispanics they used to be real stalwart democrat voters but there is a shift there too. why do you think it is happening with mexican-american voters? >> yes. we can see that the mexican community is one full of faith, god, faith, family, freedom and their understanding of democrats are pretty much taking our faith away, religious freedoms, taking christian principles away. we're seeing a big shift in the mexican-american community here in the united states. rachel: so what percentage do you think is the econom...

This massive, massive turnout, for a midterm primary with general election numbers in terms of turnout. and that huge gap, it's just -- i was absolutely amazed. we saw the early numbers last night. this can't actually be real. it turned out it was real. it was basically 60/40 all night. and it should send shivers of fear down the backs of republican candidates from coast to coast about what's going to happen in the fall. because this demonstrates that people will come out and they will vote and they have strong views about choice. about this radical anti-abortion position, that so many republi...

It is more the 60/40, 65/35 issue. when we're just talking about abortion in general, that democrats and the side supporting abortion rights seem to have the advantage there. >> the other piece of this, too, is that yes, this was an august tuesday in the summer. turnout was huge as you talked about, comparatively, nearly double what it was in the 2018 primaries. that that, come november, it will not just be abortion on the ballot. it will be the economy and inflation and are gas prices, as they've continued to drop, will they keep dropping? will they lower? a lot of factors in play. >> absolut...

The president months and months ago said inflation would be transitory. and they have said other things since then it has not inspired confidence yesterday the cpi came out and today it's the producer price index. yesterday is a pricey day pay and today is the wholesale prices. look, the price of gas is down. that last month's data. the price of gas has come down. it has. this is tammy baldwin here asking, is that the right thing to tell the american people? they see this new report and reminds them inflation is going up but don't worry, it's over. >> is that what you would tell them, the data...