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Democrats, no collusion, witch hunt, hoax because this isn't a campaign. it's not -- donald trump said this. what does robert mueller respond? mueller doesn't respond. >> that's a good point. >> nor should he. but the point is that it's uneven ground from a public relations perspective. so the ground has already been seeded in trump world to all the buzz words are out there to dismiss whatever is found here. jeff is right. i think 60/40 believe him, mueller, but 40% don't believe him despite it's an investigation commissioned by the department of justice no matter what it finds. >> right. >> i...

Approved of the way the president handled that news conference. and among republicans 85% of those polled would describe the russia investigation as a distraction more than they would a serious issue. with us tonight to talk about it two of our returning favorites, connie schultz, pulitzer prize winner, who is now a nationally syndicated columnist. full disclosure, in her spare time she happens to be married to ohio senator bro brown. jeremy, again we stress those numbers are among republicans. when you hear people casually say we're a 60/40 country, where do you put the party split? so how ma...

More? 53% said say the news media. 37%, president trump. >> those numbers are basically the same percentages we see in every poll we take. they are roughly 60/40 against the president, approval rating, do you believe him, is he a good role model. we have a deeply polarized country along those lines. there are about 40% of the public, give and take a few percentage points who are emphatic supporters of trump. but there's a larger percentage -- >> to put a button on it, this was a lie about a meeting with the russians at trump tower where don jr. was promised dirt on hillary clinton. if those ar...

Something happened in the talks with the chinese that also seemed to contributing to this. >> there's probably a lot that happened that we don't know about and it may well be the north koreans are much more responsible for the decision to cancel this than the president and the administration, but susan's point is exactly right. no other president that we know of would have done this in the way that president trump did. president trump has said unpredictability is the central core of the way i operate, particularly on foreign policy. he has said every other administration has tried and failed, ...

Worker gets a fair shake. that what needs to happen. >> dana: john roberts asked the president and the president said he thinks whether the meeting takes place on june 12 is a con flip, 50/50. what do you put it? >> i think its a little higher. 60/40 but it is close to that. >> dana: dennis wilder, thank you. rare cooperation between democrats and the republicans as congress takes a first step to improving the nation's prison system. republican in the house who introduced a bill to do just that will join me live. plus, president trump meeting with the deputy attorney general as he demands answ...