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E-mails and had not complied with the subpoena in gathering all of her e-mails >> that is what i meant. >> i would like to know what you meant. they didn't know they were missing in the months you were there. and you appreciated you told us in great detail about the process that you went through, but of correspondence -- course -- it was a process you determined you wanted to go through. we issued a subpoena and 6103 doesn't take the place of gathering that. ways and means was to receive them without redaction. >> i believe -- i understand

April this year when asked about the e-mails said they were taken off and put on servers and he said that they do have those e-mails and raised his hand under oath, and the only reason they were not there is because they were extracting the 6103 and he confirmed that they had them, and was he lying to the congress at this point? we have a lot of question fs fo him. >> well, that is interesting and let's go through the time line of this. in march of 2010, the targeting of the conservative groups begin and those with the name conservative and 9/12 project, and the tea party and those group group...

April this year when asked about the e-mails said they were taken off and put on servers and he said that they do have those e-mails and raised his hand under oath, and the only reason they were not there is because they were extracting the 6103 and he confirmed that they had them, and was he lying to the congress at this point? we have a lot of question fs fo him. >> well, that is interesting and let's go through the time line of this. in march of 2010, the targeting of the conservative groups begin and those with the name conservative and 9/12 project, and the tea party and those group group...

Redact the 6103 information. it was the on the reason they couldn't immediately give them to congress. our recourse now? we have got to explore that with chairman issa. i know he's furious about this. the chairman has issued a subpoena for the actual hard drives themselves. martha: they are stone warming you. short of whose going to do it? eric holder is going to send somebody in there and say i want you to turn over these hard drives now. we'll investigate them. we'll see the issues you were subpoenaed for that you suddenly can't find. >> when this investigation started jim jordan was great b...

Conspiracies propagated around this story. what do you think of that? >> i think that's ludicrous. just because the white house says something does not mean it's true. i feel like we are dealing with children here. trying to put one over on their parents. bill were he says 67,000 emails either sent or received by lerner have been provided to congress. the critical part of the story is the emails that cannot be located apparently went to individuals outside the irs, maybe they were working at the white house, maybe they were working at the department of treasury. maybe they were friends at home...